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Finding Meaning Through Shared Experience

In our continuing series on mental health journeys, we spoke with Thierry, a 47-year-old pair aidant (peer support worker) from France who shares his experience living with major depressive disorder and anxiety, and how helping others has become central to his recovery process.

The Unexpected Diagnosis

"There was a time when I couldn't imagine sitting here, having this conversation," Thierry begins, his voice steady as we settle into a quiet corner of the hospital cafeteria. "Back then, even getting out of bed felt impossible some days."

Thierry's journey with mental health began unexpectedly. "I initially went to the hospital for persistent headaches and insomnia. I thought maybe I needed better sleep medication," he explains. "I never expected to walk out with a diagnosis of major depressive disorder and anxiety."

The symptoms had been building gradually, almost imperceptibly. "Looking back, I can see the signs were there for months, maybe years," he reflects. "The constant fatigue that sleep couldn't fix. The way my thoughts would spiral into catastrophic scenarios over minor issues. The physical symptoms were the worst – chest tightness, heart palpitations, stomach problems, and those terrible headaches."

His wife, Marie, was with him when he received the diagnosis. "Her reaction surprised me," Thierry recalls. "There was no shock, just relief. 'Finally,' she said, 'we have a name for what's been happening.' She had noticed the changes long before I admitted them to myself – how I'd stopped enjoying activities I once loved, how I'd become irritable and withdrawn, how I would find excuses to avoid social gatherings."

For Thierry himself, the diagnosis provoked mixed emotions. "When I first got diagnosed, I felt the world had no color, you know? I had no knowledge about these conditions, so I felt I was losing control of myself. I thought it meant I was fundamentally broken or weak. It took me a long time to understand that wasn't true."

The Challenging Path to Acceptance

Thierry's journey toward recovery wasn't linear. "The early days of treatment were a blur of medication adjustments and therapy sessions," he says. "But the most difficult part wasn't the treatment itself – it was accepting myself and my condition."

His psychiatrist suggested group therapy, but Thierry resisted strongly. "I refused at least five times," he admits with a slight smile. "I couldn't imagine sharing my struggles with strangers. The thought of exposing my vulnerability terrified me. I believed my problems were unique, that no one could possibly understand, and frankly, I didn't want to hear about other people's problems when I was drowning in my own."

What changed his mind? "My psychiatrist took a different approach," Thierry explains. "Instead of pressuring me, he gently suggested that hearing from others with similar experiences might help me feel less alone. He also mentioned that sharing my own journey, whenever I felt ready, could potentially help others in the group who were struggling."

This perspective resonated with Thierry. "The idea that my experiences, as painful as they were, might actually be valuable to someone else – that was something I hadn't considered before."

Thierry attended his first session with cautious curiosity. "I was nervous and quiet that first day, mainly just listening and observing," he recalls. "Then something unexpected happened."

He describes a pivotal moment with another group member. "There was a young woman with bipolar disorder who mentioned a book by Kay Redfield Jamison, 'An Unquiet Mind.' She spoke about how people with bipolar disorder have contributed to our world – like Vincent van Gogh, whose 'bipolar ability,' as she called it, produced extraordinary art. It wasn't about romanticizing mental illness, but recognizing that our different brain wiring isn't just a liability."

The group psychologist expanded on this perspective. "She explained that people with MDD often possess unique cognitive patterns – we tend to be more detail-oriented and realistic in assessing situations. We're less susceptible to the 'optimism bias' that affects most people. She called it 'depressive realism' and suggested it could be valuable in certain contexts."

This reframing was revolutionary for Thierry. "It was the first time someone had suggested that my brain wasn't just broken – it was different, and that difference could have value. I didn't accept it immediately, but it planted a seed."

Daily Reality of Living with Depression and Anxiety

As Thierry became more comfortable in the group setting, he began to recognize the full extent of his symptoms. "Depression manifests differently for everyone, but for me, the physical symptoms were profound. I experienced chronic pain that moved around my body – back pain, joint pain, headaches. My cognitive function was impaired – I would forget words mid-sentence, lose my train of thought, struggle to make simple decisions."

The emotional landscape was equally challenging. "It wasn't just sadness," he emphasizes. "It was emotional numbness, the inability to feel pleasure in anything – what clinicians call anhedonia. And the guilt... constant, crushing guilt about being a burden to my family, about not being the husband and father I wanted to be."

Anxiety added another dimension to his struggles. "The panic attacks were terrifying – heart racing, sweating, feeling like I couldn't breathe. I developed rituals to manage my anxiety, checking things repeatedly, avoiding certain situations. I became hypervigilant, always scanning for potential threats."

Sleep disturbances compounded these issues. "Either I couldn't sleep at all, or I would sleep for 12 hours and still wake up exhausted. My dreams were vivid and disturbing, often involving themes of failure or humiliation."

Managing these conditions remains an ongoing challenge. "I followed my treatment plan religiously – medication, therapy, daily walks, regular sleep schedule. Gradually, I started to have more good days than bad. I began to recognize my triggers and develop coping strategies."

The Path to Becoming a Peer Support Worker

About three years into his treatment, Thierry's perspective began to shift significantly. "During a particularly meaningful group session, I found myself offering suggestions to a newly diagnosed member," he recalls. "Afterward, the facilitator took me aside and said, 'You have a gift for this. Have you ever considered becoming a pair aidant?'"

The suggestion resonated deeply. "It was like a light switched on. Throughout my career in project management, I'd always felt something was missing. Here was an opportunity to transform my suffering into something meaningful."

His psychiatrist strongly supported the idea. "He told me, 'Thierry, your lived experience is a qualification no medical school can provide.' That validation was powerful."

The decision to become a peer support worker wasn't just about helping others – it was integral to Thierry's own recovery. "There's a concept in recovery called 'the helper therapy principle' – the idea that helping others helps the helper. I've found that to be profoundly true."

Before he could formally apply, Thierry needed to reach a certain level of stability in his own mental health. "I worked with my treatment team for another year, focusing specifically on building resilience and emotional regulation skills. It wasn't about being 'cured' – it was about having the self-awareness and tools to manage my conditions effectively."

Finding Purpose in Pain

When asked if he considers himself fully recovered, Thierry's response is thoughtful. "Recovery isn't a destination; it's a journey. I still have MDD and anxiety – they're chronic conditions that I'll likely manage throughout my life. But recovery to me means they no longer control my life or define my identity."

He elaborates on his perspective: "I have bad days, certainly. There are still mornings when getting out of bed feels like climbing a mountain, still moments when anxiety grips me without warning. The difference is that now I have tools to respond rather than react. I know these states are temporary, not permanent. And most importantly, I've built a meaningful life around and despite these conditions."

This understanding informs how Thierry approaches his role as a peer support worker. "I don't present myself as 'cured' or having all the answers. What I offer is living proof that you can build a life worth living even with these conditions. Sometimes that's exactly what people need to see – especially when they're in the depths of despair and can't imagine a future."

The Rewards and Challenges of Supporting Others

Thierry's work as a pair aidant brings both profound rewards and unique challenges. "The most meaningful moments come when I connect with someone who feels completely isolated in their suffering," he shares. "There's this moment of recognition that passes between us when they realize I truly understand – not from textbooks, but from lived experience."

These connections aren't always easy to establish. "Some people are initially skeptical or guarded," Thierry explains. "They've been disappointed by treatment attempts before, or they've had their suffering minimized by others who didn't understand. Building trust takes time and patience."

He recalls a particularly challenging situation. "There was a man about my age who wouldn't engage with me at first. He would look at the floor during our sessions, giving only one-word answers. I later learned he was a high-level executive who felt deeply ashamed about his condition. He saw it as weakness, just as I once did."

Instead of pushing, Thierry simply shared parts of his own journey when appropriate. "After our third session, he finally looked me in the eye and said, 'I had a panic attack in front of my entire management team last week.' I could hear the humiliation in his voice. I told him about my own experience with workplace anxiety. The relief on his face was immediate – here was someone who understood that specific pain."

Maintaining appropriate boundaries while being authentic presents ongoing challenges. "Early on, I found myself getting too emotionally invested in certain cases. I would think about them constantly, worry about them when I was home. I had to learn that I can be compassionate without carrying their pain as my own."

Thierry has developed strategies to maintain his own wellbeing while supporting others. "I'm vigilant about self-care practices that keep me grounded – regular supervision with a senior peer support worker, maintaining my own therapy, and having clear boundaries around work hours. I've learned to recognize my own early warning signs of distress and take action before they escalate."

Digital Support and Thierry's Unique Recovery Insights

Thierry discovered Listen through his own research into innovative mental health resources. "I'm always looking for new tools that might help the people I support," he explains. "I came across Listen in an online forum about mental health technology and was intrigued by its approach. I registered on the waitlist immediately and was selected to try it a few weeks later."

His experience with the AI companion has been positive. "What impressed me about Listen is how it offers a supportive conversation space with thoughtful prompts and reflection tools," Thierry notes. "While it's not a medical device or a replacement for professional care, it can be a helpful companion for emotional wellbeing and self-reflection."

He believes Listen offers unique benefits for everyday support. "The AI is available whenever you need someone to talk to – it doesn't sleep and doesn't judge. When I'm feeling overwhelmed at odd hours or just need a space to process my thoughts, I find it comforting to have this option. It helps me gather my thoughts and track my emotional patterns, which I can then discuss with my healthcare provider if needed."

Beyond digital support, Thierry has developed several distinctive recommendations based on his journey as both patient and peer support worker:

"I recommend keeping a 'victory journal' – not just tracking symptoms or moods, but specifically documenting small wins and moments of strength," he explains. "On my darkest days, being able to read evidence of my past resilience reminds me that I've navigated difficult times before."

He emphasizes the importance of environmental modifications. "Our surroundings profoundly affect our mental state. I encourage simple changes like ensuring access to natural light, reducing clutter in your primary living space, introducing plants, or creating a dedicated comfort corner with items that engage your senses positively."

Thierry advocates for what he calls "permission slips" – a concept he developed during his recovery. "I literally write myself notes giving permission to adjust expectations during difficult periods. 'I give myself permission to leave this event early if it becomes overwhelming' or 'I give myself permission to take a mental health day.' This simple practice counteracts the self-criticism that often accompanies necessary self-care."

For managing rumination, he suggests a technique called "worry scheduling." "I set aside 15-20 minutes daily as designated 'worry time.' When anxious thoughts arise outside this period, I acknowledge them and mentally postpone them to my scheduled worry session. This breaks the cycle of constant rumination and contains anxiety to a manageable timeframe."

Thierry also recommends strategic use of technology. "Beyond specialized mental health apps like Listen, I suggest auditing your digital environment. Unfollow accounts that trigger comparison or inadequacy, use screen time limits, and curate content that supports rather than undermines your mental health. I personally use night mode on all devices and have notifications disabled for most apps."

He emphasizes the value of creative expression. "Finding non-verbal ways to process emotions – through art, music, movement, or writing – can access healing pathways that conversation alone doesn't reach. I started taking piano lessons at 45 with no musical background, and playing even simple pieces provides a meditative focus that quiets my anxious mind."

Perhaps most importantly, Thierry encourages redefining one's relationship with productivity. "In our achievement-oriented culture, worth is often tied to productivity. I advocate for embracing 'recovery productivity' – recognizing that rest, reflection, and healing are productive uses of time and essential investments in future wellbeing."

A Personal Journey Continues

As our conversation draws to a close, Thierry reflects on his ongoing journey. "Being a pair aidant hasn't 'cured' my depression or anxiety. These conditions are part of me, like my height or eye color. But they no longer define my limits."

He finds profound meaning in his current role. "The very experiences I once viewed as my greatest weakness have become my most valuable professional asset. My suffering has been transformed into something useful – something that creates connection rather than isolation."

Looking back on his journey brings a perspective he couldn't have imagined during his darkest times. "If you had told me five years ago, when I was at my lowest point, that my MDD would one day become a source of purpose and meaning, I would never have believed you. Yet here I am, living proof that our darkest experiences can sometimes lead us to our life's work," Thierry concludes with a warm, genuine smile.

If you or someone you know is struggling with depression, anxiety, or other mental health issues, please reach out to a healthcare professional. To learn more about the Listen AI companion for mental health support, visit our website.

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